in talking to a lot of my friends (a lot of who don't feel like going out out, and some of who don't feel like a dive bar), we decided to meet at Big D's, on 43rd avenue and Peoria, north side of the street, just west of 43rd ave, behind the kfc. $5 cover charge, if my memory serves me right?!? not my number one choice, but they have karaoke, comfy seats, and dancing in the side bar, so there's something for everyone....

call me at 602-299-9815 for any info or directions...

it gets pretty busy there pretty quick, so lemme know if you can make it, and i'll save seats... i'll prolly be there at about 830. for those that haven't met me, i'm PLANNING on being dressed in a short sleeved black turtleneck, and having my dark nerdy glasses on, so i shouldn't be TOO hard to find.

if nothing else, once it hits like 10 or so, and we don't feel like staying, we can always move elsewhere...

look forward to seeing you!!!