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bite me.

i went to work today, feeling depressed. not just sad, but DEE. PRESSED. i felt like i was pouting almost, like i was a sore loser.

well, i'll tell you what. there is such thing as a sore loser. but what is a trillion times worse than a sore loser is a BAD WINNER.

all. freaking. day. i was told by my coworkers and by customers that i was dumb for voting for kerry. that i obviously couldn't form a cohesive opinion for a decent candidate for the presidency. i was informed - not always politely - that kerry is a 'shit head', a 'dumb ass', and a 'stupid jerk'. i was told that bush was the lesser of the two evils for running for president, so why on earth did i possess a lack of judgement in voting for someone who flip flops?!?

i even had someone spit practically in my face and tell me that the entire military hates me because i voted for kerry, and that "well, the entire military says you're WRONG."

and keep in mind that i didn't bring up the election even once with any of these people. they would begin by saying "huh. some election last night." i would reply "yes. i stayed up late. i'm sad today."

so i had thought about just ignoring the fact that kerry lost and that every nerve of mine has been on end for the last few months leading up to the presidential election. less drama that way.

well, FUCK THAT. i will not apologize if i had high hopes for voting in a different leader with more of an open mind, in hopes that our country would become a better one over the next 4 years. i will not shirk or hang my head because the american populace overall thinks that bush would make a better 'leader' for our nation. i will FEEL anger because of how many world wide relationships we have alienated during the bush administration. i will burn with sadness because of the opportunity to flip this country that i live in from a downward spiral into dissent and predjudice (whether for abortions or gays or non Christians), into one of tolerance and understanding.

in voting for Kerry, i did what i could. now, i must find different, smaller ways in order to try to save this wretched country from what it has become.

i'm sorry i understand if my views on this country in general are not yours. but i'm damn sick and tired of playing meek and hiding my beliefs just because it might rock the boat a little. i don't appreciate being told that because of feeling the way that i do, i am obviously uneducated because i'm not afraid to change status quo.

look around you.

things are not going well.

it's time for change.

*footnote: Oregon also passed into state constitutional law that marriage is only allowed between a man and a woman.*


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Nov. 4th, 2004 02:47 am (UTC)
damn, and you live in Washington state right? One of the states Kerry won. I didn't have much faith in Kerry as a leader, but at least it would be a small change, better than continuing on the path we are on and cannot really or should I say, people won't let us get off of. The bottom line for me was that things are not working and it is time to give someone else a chance, who can maybe fix them. Of course things cannot be turned around easily, or even in 4 years. Luckily I was surrouning mostly by liberals today (a private liberal arts college in a large city will do that for ya).
Nov. 4th, 2004 02:48 am (UTC)
re: your footnote
That really suprised me as well.
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Nov. 4th, 2004 02:54 am (UTC)
*footnote: Oregon also passed into state constitutional law that marriage is only allowed between a man and a woman.*

I thought you lived in Washington....
Nov. 4th, 2004 03:01 am (UTC)
i do, i live in vancouver, washington, which is basically a suburb of portland, oregon. we go to oregon for most of our night time entertainment, as well as for mostly any quality.. anything, really. so although we're in washington state, we're so close to oregon that things that effect them emotionally somewhat do us, too.
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Nov. 4th, 2004 03:10 am (UTC)

Half the people in the country agreed with you, and so did many current and ex military folk. I can provide names if you like ;)

Tell them if they dont like the American electoral system then they can just leave ;)
Nov. 4th, 2004 06:54 am (UTC)
dude. yeah, about the military - everyone should read Michael Moore's book "Will They Ever Trust Us Again?" It's an entire book of letterse Moore received from active or about-to-depart troops. Our troops do not like George W. Bush.
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Nov. 4th, 2004 03:13 am (UTC)
I hate people.
Nov. 6th, 2004 06:16 pm (UTC)
meeeeeeeeeeee, toooooooo.
Nov. 4th, 2004 03:14 am (UTC)
Reason # 25 why I love my co-workers. We were ALL sad today. I don't think one person I work with voted for Bush. :D

Nov. 6th, 2004 06:15 pm (UTC)
i'm quite jealous.
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Nov. 6th, 2004 06:14 pm (UTC)
this is very true.

luckily, after the first initial day after the election, things have calmed down and i haven't received any more ridicule. i even met a bush supporter that was so kind, so considerate, and had met so many rude kerry supporters in his campaign for what he believed in, that i actually found myself congratulating him on his person's success in the election.
Nov. 4th, 2004 03:37 am (UTC)
Oh sweetie, I am so sorry you had to deal with that sort of bullshit today. That's just wrong. Fucking WRONG. If Kerry had won last night, I wouldn't have been running up to everyone in the world making their lives miserable. (There might be a few people who would've been given shit but honestly, they deserve it) It's just fucking amazing that people were that vitriolic in a state where Kerry won handily (even though you said you're a burb of OR, he won there too!!!).

The military thing is a big fucking joke. Wesley Clarke and a very large contingent of other military and former military people supported Kerry, the goddamn AWARDED VETERAN, not GW the AWOL Chickenhawk. Not to mention all the guys who contacted Michael Moore and wrote all the letters to him (about 6,000) telling him about their experiences in Iraq (his latest book). Then there's the veterans group who are doing PSAs about the *real* experience in Iraq (complete with showing off amputations) -- I wish I knew their URL.

I think what you experienced today is just the first salvo in what's going to go on for the next 4 years -- it's just snowballing with both sides pissed off beyond all belief. I'd rather have you on *MY* side in this war. It's going to be a bumpy ride.
Nov. 6th, 2004 06:11 pm (UTC)
thank you so much for replying with this, it was very heartening.

as i was saying to some others, if it did nothing else, this whole debacle served as to get some of us (namely my brother, my roommate, and myself) off of our asses and to work to become more knowledgeable about our goverment, local and globally.

knowledge is power.
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Nov. 4th, 2004 04:47 am (UTC)
in our county, last i heard was that bush had actually won here by a few percent... :(
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Nov. 4th, 2004 04:12 am (UTC)
Everyone is entitled to their own views, that's the beauty of the democracy that we are part of. I'm sorry you got teased at work today.

At my work, most people were Bush supporters, but there are a few Kerry supporters. I didn't hear/see anyone give anyone else hell, and one of my cubemates voted almost polar opposite of me, and neither of us was quiet about our choices, but no one teased anyone.
Nov. 4th, 2004 06:14 pm (UTC)
which is the way it should be.
Nov. 4th, 2004 05:25 am (UTC)
not everyone in the military voted for bush, a friend of mine who is in the texas coast gaurd voted for kerry and together we got a few people to vote for kerry. our country is in the shithole. i only hope that i'm wrong about bush being such an idiot, (although this is very difficult to prove otherwise) for the sake of our country and all.

And gay marriage. what the fuck? why is someone else's opinion deciding for another group of people, what the fuck are people so afraid of? holy crap this country is stupid.
Nov. 4th, 2004 06:11 pm (UTC)
i so don't see how the 'straights' can honestly feel threatened by gay marriages. the sanctity of marriage. pah. okay, well, fine. don't let them marry. bug GEEZ, let them at least have partnership rights. there is zero reason why two women who have been together for 20 years, for example, living their lives every day as a married couple in all but law, should not be able to have certain rights regarding hospitalization and life support and other things.

grah. it makes me angray.
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Nov. 4th, 2004 05:55 am (UTC)
im so thankful they preventend gays from marrying... now we wont have to worry about them infesting our neighborhoods.. telling our kids to have sex with animals and their siblings!!

now if we could only take the rights away from blacks... we would stil let women vote... but only if they vote how their husband wishes them to

but still.. thank god, i mean they act as if this is some sort of a free country... as if the gays should have the same rights as us normal people!!!

*hangs self*
Nov. 4th, 2004 06:08 pm (UTC)
egads, yes! and lets get these women back into dresses, for krissakes!
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Nov. 4th, 2004 07:18 am (UTC)
That's even more scary given that Kerry won Washington. Sheesh. Proof that there are plenty of "non-reality-based" people everywhere. I bet they think that Michael Moore's book of letters from soldiers in the Middle East is a work of fiction.

Do not be meek. Rock the boat. Set fire to the boat if you have to. We'll keep getting stronger these next fours years, and by then they'll have no way to stop us!
Nov. 4th, 2004 06:05 pm (UTC)
yup. if this election did nothing else, it served as a way to get myself - and many other americans - off their asses and stop sitting back and letting the world go by "because it just does."

i ended this election feeling as if i hadn't done nearly enough. i should have helped the campaign. i should have shared my beliefs with valid points as to why kerry would make a better president.
Nov. 4th, 2004 07:36 am (UTC)
So you told them you felt SAD, and they took that as a cue to rub it in and make fun of you?

People are assholes.
Nov. 4th, 2004 06:02 pm (UTC)
apparantly so. mostly, i would get the response "*heavy eye roll* don't tell me you voted for KEEERRRYYY."

to which i responded "of course i did."

more or less, it seems like people that were teetering or indecisive are becoming fair weather friends. during the whole election process over the last few months, all i heard was bush bashing and kerry supporters. the SECOND kerry concedes, all of a sudden there's bush supporters - not anti kerry people, but people that actually SUPPORT the president, whole heartedly - coming out of the woodwork to point at me, laugh, and chant "i told you so! i told you so!"

where were these people with their INTELLIGENT views on the presidential race before hand? the best that people have given me since it's been over is that kerry's a gimp.

well, sorry. THIS little smurf thinks that we needed a gimp just like kerry to get things into order. and i refuse to back down on that belief.

so neener.
Nov. 4th, 2004 02:30 pm (UTC)

all. freaking. day. i was told by my coworkers and by customers that i was dumb for voting for kerry. that i obviously couldn't form a cohesive opinion for a decent candidate for the presidency.

The ironic thing is that many of these folks who are calling you a dumbass will be hurt by the Department of Labor's anti-labor policies and overtime 'reform', as well as by many of Bush's other 'reforms'. Unless, of course, your co-workers and customers are millionaires.

i will burn with sadness because of the opportunity to flip this country that i live in from a downward spiral into dissent and prejudice (whether for abortions or gays or non Christians), into one of tolerance and understanding.

I know what you mean...

so why on earth did i possess a lack of judgment in voting for someone who flip flops?!?

I thought this was one of the most unfair criticisms made of Kerry, and I'm not one who thinks Kerry was beyond criticism. Kerry is a legislator. Part of that job involves working with the other party and representatives from diverse states in cutting deals to get things done. Bush likes to claim that he's the steadfast one, but that's because he doesn't think before he acts and doesn't question. He's also the 'executive', which is a totally different job.

Here is Bush's version of 'decisiveness':

Bush: My left hand was hurting, so I lopped it off with a meat cleaver. I was decisive, not wishy-washy.

Kerry: My left hand was hurting, so I went to a doctor... sought a second opinion, and then decided to undergo medical treatment.

Bush has changed his story so many times about why we're in Iraq that he has no business calling anyone else a 'flip-flopper'.

Sorry for venting in your journal. I guess I'm just trying to say, "Don't let them get you down."
Nov. 4th, 2004 05:34 pm (UTC)
no problem, hun, vent away :) i love things that spark interesting conversation and respectful debates :)

as i was telling my mother last night that i don't feel kerry was wishy washy at all. he even explained a trillion times that he voted for or against a bill over and over again because whatever was proposed either had stipulations in there that he didn't like, or would have a backlash later on in society, or wasn't the right thing to do at the time it was proposed. egads. if people cannot respect a person that is willing to stand up for what he believes in, whom is looking out for the betterment of everyone involved....

hee. i loved your version of wishywashy-ness ;) that rocked.

i saw something posted in damnportlanders stating basically that the best offense for the national government is to ... well, best put, think globally, but act locally. work with local legislatures and with your local representatives, because that's what gets the job done on a local level, and is generally more effective, than trying to to change the world.
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Nov. 4th, 2004 05:27 pm (UTC)
abolutely. absofreaking lutely.

if the last 4 years have been so bad with employment outsourcing, unemployment, and reform after reform taking more and more of our rights away from us, i am terrified of the next 4.

the best thing that i can do is to remain as educated as i can on everything that is going on and to do what i can in order to improve myself to a point where i can better deal with the things going on around me.

and to teach others. knowledge is power.
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